User talk:Gavranha

Hello, everybody!

Hello, Dr. Scholz

(at first, sorry for the poor english)

I'm very, very impressed with your proposal about SMW named SMWpc, and going deep right now in your paper.

Just trying to understand the concepts and evaluate the wide possibilities it opens for a research project that I'm (hardly) outlining.

It seems like the big little piece I was searching for, since I was choose MW, SMW and SF as a starting point for a colaborative ontology design.

Note: I'm not a IT professional or developer (yet :), but starting with Protegè (Stanford), Drupal and, of course, the wikis.

SMW is ok, but after three or four days exploring it - and some extensions - I realize that, although powerfull, the trio falls in the lack (for my specific needs) of the meta-model (in the sense of SMWpc).

IkeWiki (among others) could be an alternative, but Tomcat is not my friend at all.

Although not IT professional, developer or Tomcat's friend, I know what I need for this research and have a reasonable knowledge of the domain I'm going to model. And SMWpc seems to fit that need.

I'll play around with the examples and finish the second reading of your paper (clear and clean, friendly and deeper, by the way).

Congratulations for your estimulating work.

It will be a amazing for all people, if MW takes you approach for semantic wikis.

Hugs and tanks a lot.

Thank you for the compliments

Hello Gavranha,

I am glad to hear that you find my concept useful. I presented my ideas to the authors of SemanticMediaWiki and they found it interesting, too. But they are pretty much busy going their own way - so I do not expect them to incorporate my "light-weight-approach".

It was always my idea, that there should be a way which allows to model semantic relationships without too much burden of new syntax for users who wish to write in a natural way. These authors may accept some minimal formalism like template usage but they are normally not willing to "construct" a meta-model-based piece of text.

And the second driving force behind DPL is the feeling that one could get a lot more out of Wikipedia if one could use a tool like DPL within Wikipedia. People would start to write DPL queries and they would geht an "orthogonal view" on the facts already contained in Wikipedia. I think, that this would immediately lead to more consistency and a more systematic structure of articles.

Therefore I am currently trying out DPL on a local copy of the German Wikipedia (my notebook PC has some trouble with the amount of data, though).

Anyway, I started an initiative to bring DPL to the English Wikinews. Once it is installed there one could test if it is accepted in the way I think it will be. I would be gald if you gave me some support with the necessary lobbying work to promote DPL towards Wikines and Wikipedia.

Gero 11:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)